Nebelhorn Trophy 2008

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25 - 28.09.2008 - Obersdorf, Germany

Results will eventually be up here: http://www.deu-event.de/results/Nebelhorn_2008/

Results after Men's SP: http://www.deu-event.de/results/Nebelhorn_2008/SEG001.HTM

Top 5 after SP:
1 Nobunari ODA
JPN 77.91 43.81 34.10 7.06 6.41 6.94 6.75 6.94 0.00 #9
2 Michal BREZINA
CZE 75.84 43.46 32.38 6.56 6.22 6.53 6.44 6.63 0.00 #19
3 Tomas VERNER
CZE 70.65 34.27 36.38 7.31 7.13 7.22 7.38 7.34 0.00 #21
4 Jeremy TEN
CAN 64.06 37.28 26.78 5.59 5.06 5.34 5.41 5.38 0.00 #12
5 Dennis PHAN
USA 62.11 30.61 31.50 6.59 6.06 6.16 6.44 6.25 0.00 #22

cheers

Nobu

However, just as I had been fearing, in spite of the improvement of his overall skating skills his PCS dropped to what they were like in his first senior season. Sad

I'm afraid that if NHK and Worlds remain his only major international assignments, he will be horribly underscored even if he skates clean. Depressed Crying

I hope he will get a second assignment! I think some spots are open in SC and CoC because of withdrawals... Worship

Somebody at FSU mentioned that the PCS could be influenced by the very early skating order (Nobu skated in the 2d group, Thomas in the last). Hopefully they will go up tomorrow. But I still think that the judges are more likely to give high PCS to somebody who's been around for a longer period of time and "paid his dues". More internationals assignments would definitely be beneficial here... Worship

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A very short report posted by fanfan, the admin of www.nobunari.com, on their site's BBS:

(after 2nd group): Group 2 has finished skating. Oda-kun made no mistakes. Currently in 1st.

(after the last group): Overall, 1st rank. Tomorrow he will skate 1st in the last group. Tomas-kun had not enough revolutions on 3A and stepped out. But other things were really good.

Perhaps after the competition there will be some longer reports. Smile

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A report from SmileWind again: Akiko skated with no mistakes and scored 55.02. She's currently in 1st with 18 skaters to go. Nobunari came to the rink to cheer for Akiko! Cheering

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Thanks for the reports! Keep them coming. cheers

Cheers for Akiko & Nobu! Cheering

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Standings after SP:

1 Alissa CZISNY
USA 56.55 30.29 26.26 6.57 6.00 6.79 6.64 6.82
2 Laura LEPISTO
FIN 55.04 30.20 24.84 6.36 5.93 6.11 6.29 6.36
3 Akiko SUZUKI
JPN 55.02 31.77 23.25 6.04 5.43 5.75 5.96 5.89
4 Elena GLEBOVA
EST 50.24 28.33 21.91 5.64 5.14 5.50 5.50 5.61
5 Annette DYTRT
GER 46.98 24.91 22.07 5.64 5.18 5.43 5.68 5.68

The top 3 skaters are very close! Akiko got the highest TES. Cheering

Unfortunately, it seems like her early skating order and lack of international exposure affected her PCS. I hope she'll score higher tomorrow! Smile

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From Nobunari's website:

Quote :: He won ~♪♪

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Quote :: 1 Nobunari ODA JPN 224.67 1 1
2 Michal BREZINA CZE 220.29 2 2
3 Yannick PONSERO FRA 197.71 8 3
4 Tomas VERNER CZE 197.38 3 4

Looks like he maybe popped his second axel, and the PCS still are at a "new kid on the block" stage, but this is a better score than his perfect skate at QR Worlds 2006. Considering the fact that he's reworking his jumps it's a very nice score! Keep it up, Nobu! Thumbs up!

Subject: Re: Nebelhorn Trophy 2008 Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:38 am

Phew! Finally I can relax. Unconscious

You know what I like about the skating season? New programs. Many Hearts

You know what I hate about the skating season? Getting so freaking nervous before every competition! Panic!

Great score from Nobu! Higher TES in the LP than Brian Joubert's at Worlds... And that's despite the fact that one spin was removed from the LP AND Nobu doubled a triple axel, singled a double one and did too few revolutions on one spin. Cheering

Subject: Re: Nebelhorn Trophy 2008 Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:29 am

I'm sooooooooooooooo excited!! The protocols are up!! And guest what?? Nobu landed 3A-3T-3L with some +2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.deu-event.de/results/Nebelhorn_2008/NT08_Men_FS_Scores.pdf

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This was a great event. Congratulations to all the winners. I wish I could see at least those programs which were debuted at Nebelhorn!

Quote :: Nobu landed 3A-3T-3L with some +2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great job! I had been worried a little, because he did not attempt this combo at Moran Memorial. I thought that maybe Nobu and Nikolai decided to not try it because of the high risk of messing up the 3L. I'm glad to see it back and better than ever.

But sweet heavens, I don't think I've ever seen PCS scores so all over the place! It seems like the judges could not decide whether to treat Nobu as a elite skater, or a newcomer. They were all over the place, from 3.00 to 8.25. Shocked

And some of the judges could not even come to agreement about which component is Nobu's strongest point - some gave him the highest points for skating skills, some for interpretation, one for choreography... I think it shows how much the judges rely on the opinion that the skater has. And when a skater appears out of the blue they just don't have an opinion to rely on... silent

I'm glad to see that both the PCS and GoEs went significantly up in the LP. Hopefully Nobu will manage to restore them to SA/NHK 2006 level, and even improve on that.

I feel a bit sad for Akiko, who doubled both of her Lutzes in the LP... Hopefully she'll rebound in time for NHK. Good luck!

Alissa surprised me with her newfound consistency. I heard that she went back to normal skating boots and does not wear the hinged ones anymore... I wonder if that made the difference?

Subject: Re: Nebelhorn Trophy 2008 Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:13 pm

Wow, the scores are really all over the place! Laugh

I think the judge no.9 had some grudge against Nobu and Michal... He gave them _really_ low PCS, some in 3's... I thought that he/she was simply stingy when it comes to PCS, but once I scrolled won it turned out he gave normal and even high scores to other skaters. I haven't seen the programs, so of course I can't really judge, buch such a huge disagreement with other judges and the reports is rather weird!

I'm relieved that both of Nobu's lutzes got high GoEs in the LP. I was like scratch

at the edge warning in the SP (and most of the judges ignored it and gave Nobu high GoEs anyway). I think the jumps were so out of nowhere that the technical caller pressed Exclamation

out of sheer surprise and was too ashamed to admit it afterwards. Hell, no!

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Alissa Czisny 2008 Nebelhorn Trophy LP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAGAkbeikqg

Subject: Re: Nebelhorn Trophy 2008 Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:21 am

Thanks a lot for the link, zyem! Alissa's layback is great. Smile

I'm glad to see her landing her finally jumps. flower

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From German TV

Savchenko/Szolkowy Nebelhorn LP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyNryiTA4pI

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