Mao News - The 2012-2013 Season!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkCUhXfyZ3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flXsVdvhNWE
some news clips today in the show
she said she will focus on putting 3A back to programs
http://hochi.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/winter/news/20130105-OHT1T00221.htm?from=related
she only took rest on 1/1 and here said she would like to put 3A in both SP and FS, and will go to Canada after SOI Tokyo (1/12~1/14)

shar wrote:

Noo! Dai will retire from figure skating after Sochi. I doubt I'll be watching men's as much without him.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/sp20130106f1.html

the sport will really, really be uninteresting after the olympics. with so many announcing retirement after the olympics, what will be left of the sport? if mao announces retirement as well, i'll definitely be uninterested after the olympics.

shikure wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkCUhXfyZ3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flXsVdvhNWE
some news clips today in the show
she said she will focus on putting 3A back to programs
http://hochi.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/winter/news/20130105-OHT1T00221.htm?from=related
she only took rest on 1/1 and here said she would like to put 3A in both SP and FS, and will go to Canada after SOI Tokyo (1/12~1/14)

Her 3As do look better from Nats clips but I hope she'll be consistent with it and I hope she'll be able to nail them in competitions. I'm hoping for only one as it seems too much for both SP and FS. Maybe 3A in SP and 3-3 in FS. But I guess for Mao 3A will be the easier one to bring back to competition. I just hope she'll also practice some contingency measures if she fails the 3A like what Yuna did when she failed in her opening combo and did 3F+3T after.

roma wrote:

shikure wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkCUhXfyZ3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flXsVdvhNWE
some news clips today in the show
she said she will focus on putting 3A back to programs
http://hochi.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/winter/news/20130105-OHT1T00221.htm?from=related
she only took rest on 1/1 and here said she would like to put 3A in both SP and FS, and will go to Canada after SOI Tokyo (1/12~1/14)

Her 3As do look better from Nats clips but I hope she'll be consistent with it and I hope she'll be able to nail them in competitions. I'm hoping for only one as it seems too much for both SP and FS. Maybe 3A in SP and 3-3 in FS. But I guess for Mao 3A will be the easier one to bring back to competition. I just hope she'll also practice some contingency measures if she fails the 3A like what Yuna did when she failed in her opening combo and did 3F+3T after.

I have the feeling that Mao's current FS is too "full" and there is no room for back up plan
like when she didn't feel so right about her first 2A landing, she still only can add the 2T instead of 3T.
She can't add that after her 3Lz and 3S after that or in second half.

I have no idea either way is better , in SP or FS...but I only hope she will put that when she is ready.
Even she practices with that, when it comes to competition, I still think it's better to consider the actual situation then decide to put that back in or not.

i so hope mao pulls out that triple triple as well with the triple axel. at the same time, i'm afraid of asking too much from her. she may feel too much pressure and become overworked if she did both. but honestly, i think she'd need both landed cleanly as well as everything else clean in order to beat the other competitors.

swan wrote:

i so hope mao pulls out that triple triple as well with the triple axel. at the same time, i'm afraid of asking too much from her. she may feel too much pressure and become overworked if she did both. but honestly, i think she'd need both landed cleanly as well as everything else clean in order to beat the other competitors.

So true swan. It seems more is expected of Mao because of her ability and inconsistancy. Mao is the only female skater who has done a 3A, and two 3-3's in a competition. But it seems she has to do those jumps just to get close to 140.. This woman made the impossible in female FS possible, and outside of Japan, shes hardly recognized for it.

shikure wrote:

roma wrote:

shikure wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkCUhXfyZ3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flXsVdvhNWE
some news clips today in the show
she said she will focus on putting 3A back to programs
http://hochi.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/winter/news/20130105-OHT1T00221.htm?from=related
she only took rest on 1/1 and here said she would like to put 3A in both SP and FS, and will go to Canada after SOI Tokyo (1/12~1/14)

Her 3As do look better from Nats clips but I hope she'll be consistent with it and I hope she'll be able to nail them in competitions. I'm hoping for only one as it seems too much for both SP and FS. Maybe 3A in SP and 3-3 in FS. But I guess for Mao 3A will be the easier one to bring back to competition. I just hope she'll also practice some contingency measures if she fails the 3A like what Yuna did when she failed in her opening combo and did 3F+3T after.

I have the feeling that Mao's current FS is too "full" and there is no room for back up plan
like when she didn't feel so right about her first 2A landing, she still only can add the 2T instead of 3T.
She can't add that after her 3Lz and 3S after that or in second half.

I have no idea either way is better , in SP or FS...but I only hope she will put that when she is ready.
Even she practices with that, when it comes to competition, I still think it's better to consider the actual situation then decide to put that back in or not.

That is what i thought, don't want her to challenge anything that is not ready. reminds me those painful memories in 2011 and 2012 worlds

I feel like after winning Nats but unsatisfied with her own performance something was lit inside of her. That perfectionist and competitive side always aiming to give the best has shown up more prominently. And then at MOI her jumps had great speed, height and distance -- fully rotated -- something I was hoping for her competitive programs. She's capable of doing them so I hope she'll be able to finally do them in competition consistently from now on. This year it's even more important to show to everyone she's really back to form and consistent.

Hope she won't feel too pressured to put them back in when they're not yet really ready. FS is already ok. She just needs consistency. It's in the SP she needs to put in the bigger numbers because most are really attempting the 3-3s. Although she can catch up on those doing 3T+3T, there are those whose combos have way higher base values.

swan wrote:

i so hope mao pulls out that triple triple as well with the triple axel. at the same time, i'm afraid of asking too much from her. she may feel too much pressure and become overworked if she did both. but honestly, i think she'd need both landed cleanly as well as everything else clean in order to beat the other competitors.

In COP, A consistent triple triple >>> an unstable (imperfect) 3A, IMO

PS. Since Mao is the only female skater who can do a 3A, it makes her 3A receives over attention from the judges. Her 3A would be easier to get ratified if she is a male skater...

The other way to get it ratified is to build a reputation, which means she has to land it consistently in competitions.

AmazingGraceMao wrote:

In COP, A consistent triple triple >>> an unstable (imperfect) 3A, IMO

PS. Since Mao is the only female skater who can do a 3A, it makes her 3A receives over attention from the judges. Her 3A would be easier to get ratified if she is a male skater...

The other way to get it ratified is to build a reputation, which means she has to land it consistently in competitions.

That's what I'm hoping to see this year -- have jumps consistency. Not just the 3A but the Flip also. But if she'll do flips like the one she did at MOI -- that one was really good.

AmazingGraceMao wrote:

The other way to get it ratified is to build a reputation, which means she has to land it consistently in competitions.

That's the dilemma here, I think. On the one hand, we're afraid that 3A/3-3 would add too much pressure; on the other, if she doesn't give it a shot and show that she can land them consistently in competitions, she'll never be able to reach the next level she wants.

In the end, I think (and hope) it will be up to her AND Coach Sato to make the decision on whether to have 3A/3-3 in both (or one) programs, or not, in the rest of the competitions this season. And hopefully Team Sato will help her to make wise decisions to optimize what she really could do, based on her condition, when it comes to the competition!

COHK wrote:

AmazingGraceMao wrote:

The other way to get it ratified is to build a reputation, which means she has to land it consistently in competitions.

That's the dilemma here, I think. On the one hand, we're afraid that 3A/3-3 would add too much pressure; on the other, if she doesn't give it a shot and show that she can land them consistently in competitions, she'll never be able to reach the next level she wants.

In the end, I think (and hope) it will be up to her AND Coach Sato to make the decision on whether to have 3A/3-3 in both (or one) programs, or not, in the rest of the competitions this season. And hopefully Team Sato will help her to make wise decisions to optimize what she really could do, based on her condition, when it comes to the competition!

Absolutely. When Sato said that they should still consider going to Sochi without 3As, he made sense.

COHK wrote:

AmazingGraceMao wrote:

The other way to get it ratified is to build a reputation, which means she has to land it consistently in competitions.

That's the dilemma here, I think. On the one hand, we're afraid that 3A/3-3 would add too much pressure; on the other, if she doesn't give it a shot and show that she can land them consistently in competitions, she'll never be able to reach the next level she wants.

In the end, I think (and hope) it will be up to her AND Coach Sato to make the decision on whether to have 3A/3-3 in both (or one) programs, or not, in the rest of the competitions this season. And hopefully Team Sato will help her to make wise decisions to optimize what she really could do, based on her condition, when it comes to the competition!

i feel the same way. mao has been having such a great season so far and i'd hate to add anymore pressure on her than she already has. my hope is that her triple axel and triple triple (whichever combination she decides to use) will be ready for olympic competition and not necessarily now. though i do believe she needs to try both of them out before the olympics.

guys i have just heard that Mao included her 3A in one of her shows, can anyone confirm this, I find this amazing news, and a good way to try the 3A before the actual competition!

[quote="linglang"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgkDgzMFZuw[/quote

thanks linglang for posting this

linglang wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgkDgzMFZuw

Translation please??

ballerinamao wrote:

guys i have just heard that Mao included her 3A in one of her shows, can anyone confirm this, I find this amazing news, and a good way to try the 3A before the actual competition!

I also saw this from several posting around....Mao was performing her SP, and the layout was:
3A、3F、3Lz

One of the sources is here: http://ameblo.jp/atomu5551/ (you can also find some photos of SOI by scrolling down)

Another interesting news from this blog: Rika Hongo is also practicing 3A!...though she still have a little to go to make it (I think the comment from the blogger is quite interesting as well: remeber Rika is a rather tall skater!)

COHK wrote:

ballerinamao wrote:

guys i have just heard that Mao included her 3A in one of her shows, can anyone confirm this, I find this amazing news, and a good way to try the 3A before the actual competition!

I also saw this from several posting around....Mao was performing her SP, and the layout was:
3A、3F、3Lz

One of the sources is here: http://ameblo.jp/atomu5551/ (you can also find some photos of SOI by scrolling down)

Another interesting news from this blog: Rika Hongo is also practicing 3A!...though she still have a little to go to make it (I think the comment from the blogger is quite interesting as well: remeber Rika is a rather tall skater!)

wow I never would have thought of this layout, it's been so long this Mao included her 3lz in her sp, I am really craving to see the actual performance, hope someone will be loading it soon!

ballerinamao wrote:

COHK wrote:

ballerinamao wrote:

guys i have just heard that Mao included her 3A in one of her shows, can anyone confirm this, I find this amazing news, and a good way to try the 3A before the actual competition!

I also saw this from several posting around....Mao was performing her SP, and the layout was:
3A、3F、3Lz

One of the sources is here: http://ameblo.jp/atomu5551/ (you can also find some photos of SOI by scrolling down)

Another interesting news from this blog: Rika Hongo is also practicing 3A!...though she still have a little to go to make it (I think the comment from the blogger is quite interesting as well: remeber Rika is a rather tall skater!)

wow I never would have thought of this layout, it's been so long this Mao included her 3lz in her sp, I am really craving to see the actual performance, hope someone will be loading it soon!

Note added: also saw from some sources that the 3A was two-footed (but nice try still!)

definitely, it's been a long time since she included this jump, so to use every opportunity to try it out is a wise thing, and also really exciting for the audience as well. it seems like Mao is determined to put this jump back in her programs as soon as possible. hope she will try her 3-3 combo's there as well.

As far as I know, Midori Ito is the only lady who has landed clean 3As in EX, maybe Mao will become the second? And, as I said before, a SP with 3A, 3F+3x, 3Lz would be something incredible, the difficultest ever planned by a lady I believe...
And, if Mao does this layout for the FS: 3Lo, 3A, 3F+3T, 3Lz, 3S, 3Lo+2Lo+2Lo, 3F+2Lo, that would be an 8-triples program!! Is a lady even allowed to do this? It wouldn't actually break the Zayak rule...

Here's the 3A clip. Two footed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKYlYIANVak

roma wrote:

Here's the 3A clip. Two footed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKYlYIANVak

it was two-footed bc it wasn't high enough, the rink was rather small. Maybe she was kind of concerned about it? A I feel like even though two footing it, it shows she is being more confident in it because doing it at that rink, and it's a good sign.

roma wrote:

Here's the 3A clip. Two footed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKYlYIANVak

clearly short of rotation, not enough height