Four Continents 2/7-11 2013

four continents is right around the corner and Mao of course will participate too, and I can't wait to see her again

here is a list of the all the skaters.

Ladies:
No. Name Nation
1 Brooklee HAN AUS 1
2 Chantelle KERRY AUS 1
3 Isadora WILLIAMS BRA 2
4 Amelie LACOSTE CAN 3
5 Kaetlyn OSMOND CAN 3
6 Julianne SEGUIN CAN 3
Kate CHARBONNEAU CAN 3 S
Alaine CHARTRAND CAN 3 S
Adriana DESANCTIS CAN 3 S
7 Zijun LI CHN 4
8 Kexin ZHANG CHN 4
9 Crystal KIANG TPE 5
10 Melinda WANG TPE 5
11 Ami PAREKH IND 6
12 Mao ASADA JPN 7
13 Kanako MURAKAMI JPN 7
14 Akiko SUZUKI JPN 7
Rika HONGO JPN 7 S
Yuki NISHINO JPN 7 S
15 Reyna HAMUI MEX 8
16 Melissa BULANHAGUI PHI 9
17 Hae Jin KIM KOR 10
18 Yeon Jun PARK KOR 10
19 Lejeanne MARAIS RSA 11
20 Christina GAO USA 12
21 Gracie GOLD USA 12
22 Agnes ZAWADZKI USA 12
Ashley CAIN USA 12 S
Mirai NAGASU USA 12 S
Caroline ZHANG USA 12 S

I forgot it is so soon, thanks for starting the thread! I can't believe we will see Mao again next week

https://youtu.be/hPpNNYBCiuo cm Dai
https://youtu.be/Wv4IGozoTnM cm all
https://youtu.be/JMfyytxxVe4 cm Mao

YAY!!!!!!!! SUPER EXCITED!!!!!!

Can't wait to see Mao again! That's the first competition where I'm going to cheer only for Mao in ladies, Yuna and Ashley are not there, my Russian babies aren't there cause it's not for Europeans skaters Quite strange feeling) But men competition is going to be super cool!!!

Yeah, go Mao, 4CC has been strange competition for her in 2011 and 2012, I just hope that she skates clean, so she can get high PCS, there is no Yu-Na or Ashley so she shouldn't have problems unless she bombs, especially with a Japanese crowd cheering for her! Who do you think is (are) Mao's biggest rival here? I would go with Gold: if she skates well, her TES can be higher than Mao's; and here are my hopes:
1: that Kaetlyn doesn't receive absurdly high PCS (at least not higher than Mao's, please!)
2: that Suzuki skates well...

It will be interesting to see how the new skaters will be scored at 4CC. I feel like PCS scoring for competitions held in Japan is more or less fair compared to other competition venues.

I just hope Mao will be in good shape, that she won't let her nerves get to her and that she won't let that 3A get too much on her nerves. She might attempt it there. it looked ok during nats practices but not goon in shows this January. Hopefully it'll be in better form next week. And since she went to Canada to have her short updated I also hope to see an updated costume.

And I hope Akiko finally skates both programs clean. I'm getting worried about her.

I don't get that you guys talking about is her 3a ready or not, accroding to show. It's not even practice, lights everywhere, and it was just an exhibtion. Liza who threw away a clean FS, poped almost every jump in exhibition, even 2a, so her 2a is not ready?

I think that trying the 3A in the SP and avoiding it in the FS would be a good strategy: even an UR 3A has a higher score than a 2A, and 7 triples in the FS are good enough to make her win...

Mao2012 wrote:

Who do you think is (are) Mao's biggest rival here? I would go with Gold: if she skates well, her TES can be higher than Mao's; and here are my hopes:
1: that Kaetlyn doesn't receive absurdly high PCS (at least not higher than Mao's, please!)
2: that Suzuki skates well...

I think that Kaetlyn is probably more of a rival for gold than Gracie is, if only for her consistency but Gracie can't be counted out either. It should be pretty exciting, even without Yuna or Ashley competing there.
Excited to see Mao compete again

ElleluvsL wrote:

Mao2012 wrote:

Who do you think is (are) Mao's biggest rival here? I would go with Gold: if she skates well, her TES can be higher than Mao's; and here are my hopes:
1: that Kaetlyn doesn't receive absurdly high PCS (at least not higher than Mao's, please!)
2: that Suzuki skates well...

I think that Kaetlyn is probably more of a rival for gold than Gracie is, if only for her consistency but Gracie can't be counted out either. It should be pretty exciting, even without Yuna or Ashley competing there.
Excited to see Mao compete again

Hmm, I think this would depend on Gracie: if she skates clean or at least well, she can easily beat Kaetlyn in the TES, then it would come down to the PCS, and we all know that something incredible can always happen there...

ElleluvsL wrote:

Mao2012 wrote:

Who do you think is (are) Mao's biggest rival here? I would go with Gold: if she skates well, her TES can be higher than Mao's; and here are my hopes:
1: that Kaetlyn doesn't receive absurdly high PCS (at least not higher than Mao's, please!)
2: that Suzuki skates well...

I think that Kaetlyn is probably more of a rival for gold than Gracie is, if only for her consistency but Gracie can't be counted out either. It should be pretty exciting, even without Yuna or Ashley competing there.
Excited to see Mao compete again

Yes, but Kaetlyn program is so juniorish, I honestly don't see her getting the PCS anywhere near Mao. Let's not forget, Skate Canada is ALWAYS very generous to their skaters, I don't see this happening at 4CC, nor worlds. There isn't a judge on this Planet that could got away with explaining why Kaetlyn got 66 in PCS. Now TES is a different story.

I just want to see Mao giving us 2 amazing performances and not get overwhelmed by 3A. And like I said at Europeans board, if Caro got 70 in PCS for that program, then I fully expect to see Mao get 69+ for hers.

https://youtu.be/MqT8sPtDjz8
I think it should be pre-4cc news

shikure wrote:

https://youtu.be/MqT8sPtDjz8
I think it should be pre-4cc news

Thanks for posting this clip, it's always nice to get some news of Mao. I really loved seeing Mao's reaction when she went for the 3A and when she landed it, she looked so happy. seeing this clip makes me soo eager to see her recent practice clips, I wonder if Mao is going to reveal her layout before competition.

shikure wrote:

https://youtu.be/MqT8sPtDjz8
I think it should be pre-4cc news

Thanks shikure for the link.

Mao says almost the same thing she's said after nationals: she wasn't sure how much she'd be able to return to her former state before the season started. She's happy that she was able to win but she's blow the level she used to be. Throwing in difficult jumps she used to do and nailing them will finally make her achieve 100%. She wants to work hard and do it consistently to succeed 3A in the latter half of the season. That's her biggest target for the season. After competing in Sochi, her ambition for Olympics has intensified. Next year will be the critical season. She wants to make full recovery in the latter half of this season and keep that momentum into the onset of the next season.

Go Mao!

There are changes is the Ladies' entries:

1 Brooklee HAN AUS 1
2 Chantelle KERRY AUS 1
3 Amelie LACOSTE CAN 2
4 Kaetlyn OSMOND CAN 2
5 Julianne SEGUIN CAN 2
Kate CHARBONNEAU CAN 2 S
Alaine CHARTRAND CAN 2 S
Adriana DESANCTIS CAN 2 S
6 Zijun LI CHN 3
7 Kexin ZHANG CHN 3
8 Crystal KIANG TPE 4
9 Melinda WANG TPE 4
10 Ami PAREKH IND 5
11 Mao ASADA JPN 6
12 Kanako MURAKAMI JPN 6
13 Akiko SUZUKI JPN 6
Rika HONGO JPN 6 S
Yuki NISHINO JPN 6 S
14 Reyna HAMUI MEX 7
15 Melissa BULANHAGUI PHI 8
16 Yeon Jun PARK KOR 9
17 Lejeanne MARAIS RSA 10
18 Christina GAO USA 11
19 Gracie GOLD USA 11
20 Agnes ZAWADZKI USA 11
Ashley CAIN USA 11 S
Mirai NAGASU USA 11 S
Caroline ZHANG USA 11 S

The changes are: Isadora WILLIAMS (BRA) & Hae Jin KIM (KOR) (WD, maybe? now the competitors are down to 20!)

I can't wait 4CC I agree Gold is one of bigest rival, I was in shock when I saw her FS from nationals. Gosh, she's unbelievable!

Well, well, welll, so Mao will try to do 3A in 4CC? I hope so Her Fs is gorgeous even without 3A though. Her performacne in GPf was unbelievable.

zarinaballerina wrote:

ElleluvsL wrote:

Mao2012 wrote:

Who do you think is (are) Mao's biggest rival here? I would go with Gold: if she skates well, her TES can be higher than Mao's; and here are my hopes:
1: that Kaetlyn doesn't receive absurdly high PCS (at least not higher than Mao's, please!)
2: that Suzuki skates well...

I think that Kaetlyn is probably more of a rival for gold than Gracie is, if only for her consistency but Gracie can't be counted out either. It should be pretty exciting, even without Yuna or Ashley competing there.
Excited to see Mao compete again

Yes, but Kaetlyn program is so juniorish, I honestly don't see her getting the PCS anywhere near Mao. Let's not forget, Skate Canada is ALWAYS very generous to their skaters, I don't see this happening at 4CC, nor worlds. There isn't a judge on this Planet that could got away with explaining why Kaetlyn got 66 in PCS. Now TES is a different story.

I just want to see Mao giving us 2 amazing performances and not get overwhelmed by 3A. And like I said at Europeans board, if Caro got 70 in PCS for that program, then I fully expect to see Mao get 69+ for hers.

i don't mean to be rude, why do you think this? i find much maturity and class with kaetlyn's performances this season. i know i may get some bashers here, but i find mao's short program way way more juniorish than either of kaetlyn's programs and i'm really hoping that she took out that juniorish choreography when she met with lori again.

Just saw Mao's Mary Poppins (this week) video. Her jumps weren't cleaned besides her 2a. Hope it's nothing serious and she's not too exausted. Wish her all the best!!!!!
Go Mao!

ddmm wrote:

Just saw Mao's Mary Poppins (this week) video. Her jumps weren't cleaned besides her 2a. Hope it's nothing serious and she's not too exausted. Wish her all the best!!!!!
Go Mao!

To me it looked like she threw away this jumps and I understand that, she has a serious competition soon, and to concentrate fully on show is not a good thing. Do you remember how awesome Mao was in 2008-2009 shows hitting every jump and then GP came

Tatjana Flade ‏@Tatjana21
Adam Rippon (USA) withdrawn from 4Conts due to injury. :-( Replacement Richard Dornbush.

This. SUCKS. Also, any reason why Jeremy ISN'T on that replacement list??

Alokya wrote:

Tatjana Flade ‏@Tatjana21
Adam Rippon (USA) withdrawn from 4Conts due to injury. :-( Replacement Richard Dornbush.

This. SUCKS. Also, any reason why Jeremy ISN'T on that replacement list??

wow what happened?

swan wrote:

Alokya wrote:

Tatjana Flade ‏@Tatjana21
Adam Rippon (USA) withdrawn from 4Conts due to injury. :-( Replacement Richard Dornbush.

This. SUCKS. Also, any reason why Jeremy ISN'T on that replacement list??

wow what happened?

No clue... USFSA hasn't even released a statement about it yet. I guess we will just have to wait for news. I have a feeling that Jeremy is furious right now - WHAT is with USFSA's habit of promoting their poster children? Yes, Ricky came in sixth... not as bad as last year... but 4CC is quite a prestigious competition, so why didn't they put their third place winner as first alternate? Or better still, have let him gone to the competition in the first place? UGH! Sorry for my rant.

swan wrote:

zarinaballerina wrote:

ElleluvsL wrote:

Mao2012 wrote:

Who do you think is (are) Mao's biggest rival here? I would go with Gold: if she skates well, her TES can be higher than Mao's; and here are my hopes:
1: that Kaetlyn doesn't receive absurdly high PCS (at least not higher than Mao's, please!)
2: that Suzuki skates well...

I think that Kaetlyn is probably more of a rival for gold than Gracie is, if only for her consistency but Gracie can't be counted out either. It should be pretty exciting, even without Yuna or Ashley competing there.
Excited to see Mao compete again

Yes, but Kaetlyn program is so juniorish, I honestly don't see her getting the PCS anywhere near Mao. Let's not forget, Skate Canada is ALWAYS very generous to their skaters, I don't see this happening at 4CC, nor worlds. There isn't a judge on this Planet that could got away with explaining why Kaetlyn got 66 in PCS. Now TES is a different story.

I just want to see Mao giving us 2 amazing performances and not get overwhelmed by 3A. And like I said at Europeans board, if Caro got 70 in PCS for that program, then I fully expect to see Mao get 69+ for hers.

i don't mean to be rude, why do you think this? i find much maturity and class with kaetlyn's performances this season. i know i may get some bashers here, but i find mao's short program way way more juniorish than either of kaetlyn's programs and i'm really hoping that she took out that juniorish choreography when she met with lori again.

By juniorish I meant the placement of her jumps, it's all or almost all in the first half of the program. her jumps are big and she's very enthusiastic in her skating, but there's no refinment in her skating (yet), and while she does look fearless and it is refreshing to see this, it's not enough to warrant high scores for SS, TR... This is only my opinion, of course.

And I agree with you about Mao's SP. It's so lovely to see her charming smile and this program has grown on me from the start of the season, however I'd much better prefer if Lori hadn't given her such juniorish looking choreography. Seriously, this program reminds of Mirai's when she skated to the same music, I believe she was 14 at that time...?

Alokya wrote:

Tatjana Flade ‏@Tatjana21
Adam Rippon (USA) withdrawn from 4Conts due to injury. :-( Replacement Richard Dornbush.

This. SUCKS. Also, any reason why Jeremy ISN'T on that replacement list??

The second year in a row that Ricky enters 4CC as an alternate replacing someone else... And, I think that (for some reason) Jeremy chose himself not to compete here... (It would be a scandal if USFSA chose not to send him at 4CC nor Worlds!)