Canadian Nationals

Canadian nationals start today, so I thought do the honors to start a thread. I am one of the lucky people who lives in an area that gets cbc, so I get to watch them! Boy, this competition, and US nationals are going on in the same weekend. I'm going to be spending a lot of time on the couch in the upcoming week!

So Am I ! haha

Ladies Results after SP:

Rank	Competitor(s)	Section	SP	FP	Points
1	Cynthia Phaneuf	QC	66.30	-	66.30
2	Joannie Rochette	QC	64.15	-	64.15
3	Amélie Lacoste	QC	53.99	-	53.99
4	Myriane Samson	QC	53.51	-	53.51
5	Adriana DeSanctis	CO	48.58	-	48.58
6	Diane Szmiett	WO	48.19	-	48.19
7	Dallas Daniel	AB/NT/NU	47.90	-	47.90
8	Kate Charbonneau	MB	47.90	-	47.90
9	Vanessa Sauriol	QC	46.24	-	46.24
10	Izabel Valiquette	QC	46.21	-	46.21
11	Vanessa Grenier	QC	44.67	-	44.67
12	Daniela-Bella Favot	WO	40.98	-	40.98
13	Kristy Bell	WO	40.21	-	40.21
14	Erin Scherrer	WO	40.02	-	40.02
15	Mira Leung	BC/YT	36.45	-	36.45
16	Rylie McCulloch-Casarsa	WO	34.96	-	34.96
17	McKenzie Crawford	WO	33.90	-	33.90
18	Alexandra Najarro	CO	32.88	-	32.88

Pairs Results after SP:

Rank	Competitor(s)	Section	SP	FP	Points
1	Anabelle Langlois / Cody Hay	QC	65.47	-	65.47
2	Jessica Dubé / Bryce Davison	QC	62.87	-	62.87
3	Meagan Duhamel / Craig Buntin	QC	62.38	-	62.38
4	Mylène Brodeur / John Mattatall	NS	60.33	-	60.33
5	Paige Lawrence / Rudi Swiegers	SK	58.22	-	58.22
6	Kirsten Moore-Towers / Dylan Moscovitch	WO	54.46	-	54.46
7	Brittany Jones / Kurtis Gaskell	WO	49.11	-	49.11
8	Anne-Marie Giroux / Eric Radford	QC	48.75	-	48.75
9	Jade-Savannah Godin / Andrew Evans	QC	46.26	-	46.26
10	Kaleigh Hole / Adam Johnson	WO	46.00	-	46.00
11	Monica Pisotta / Michael Stewart	CO	44.79	-	44.79
12	Noemie Arseneault / Simon-Pierre Côté	QC	42.35	-	42.35

Oh crap now I know what happens! My dvr started recording that an hour ago, and I was just about to go watch it! It's ok though bibi, I'm not mad at you at all It's my fault, I shouldn't have come back to the thread seeing that a Canadian had posted on here after the event had already happened. Duh! Stupid me!

What happened with Joannie?! Guess I'm off to go find out right now...

OHhh! I'm soooooo sorry!! I should write on the top of my post that I'm going to post the results next time!...

Huh?! Joannie is only in second?! What happened? Good for Cynthia, though. Kurt Browning tweeted that his fave moment so far was Cynthia going for it and holding nothing back. It must have been a really good skate.

cynthia was pretty good:)

I'm surprised about Joannie, but I already took a look at the protocols and she fell on the 3Lz, so maybe that's the reason she's in 2nd. But I'm so thrilled for Cynthia! If she can hold it together in LP, she might win her second national title!



Good luck to all!

Hmmm I had a good feeling about this comp until the last competitor. An average Chan with a hand down on his planned combination and who could only tack a double on his planned solo triple just scored 90.14... I agree that Patrick should have the highest PCS (though maybe not by 11 points), but he also has the highest TES while Chipeur was clean and very much "on"...

Anyway, I get that they're trying to give him a confidence boost but a 12 point lead is pushing it in my opinion. It's just disappointing for the other skaters who did not seem to benefit from the typical Nationals overscoring.


ETA: How did you manage to copy-paste those tables, bibi?

I saw Joannie's new costume here. It's gorgeous!
can't wait to see their performances.

http://www.apimages.com/Search.aspx?sh=103&st=k&remem=x&kw=Canadian+championships+figure+skating&intv=3d

coconut wrote:

I saw Joannie's new costume here. It's gorgeous!
can't wait to see their performances.

http://www.apimages.com/Search.aspx?sh=103&st=k&remem=x&kw=Canadian+championships+figure+skating&intv=3d

Uhh! I like it! It's much better than the other one!

chiyori wrote:

Hmmm I had a good feeling about this comp until the last competitor. An average Chan with a hand down on his planned combination and who could only tack a double on his planned solo triple just scored 90.14... I agree that Patrick should have the highest PCS (though maybe not by 11 points), but he also has the highest TES while Chipeur was clean and very much "on".

Dai's 92 with a generous GoE boost and Plushy's 100 with the "Russian bonus points for difficult elements" on their SP look pretty reasonable now. It also makes the NA media outlets criticizing Dai and Plushy's Nats scores look like total fools because Skate Canada has just done the same thing with PatChan and I'm sure USFSA is bound to follow should Evan skate clean. Eek.

I hope Joannie can put it together in the FS; she's definitely struggling again.

chiyori wrote:

Hmmm I had a good feeling about this comp until the last competitor. An average Chan with a hand down on his planned combination and who could only tack a double on his planned solo triple just scored 90.14... I agree that Patrick should have the highest PCS (though maybe not by 11 points), but he also has the highest TES while Chipeur was clean and very much "on"...

Anyway, I get that they're trying to give him a confidence boost but a 12 point lead is pushing it in my opinion. It's just disappointing for the other skaters who did not seem to benefit from the typical Nationals overscoring.


ETA: How did you manage to copy-paste those tables, bibi?

ahah, I just copy-paste it from the results page that I found on skatecanada.ca I underlined here (the mens results for examplehttp://www.patinagecanada.ca/fr/events_results/events/cdns10Result.cfm)it all and it worked fine

as for PatChan,
I agree with you that his jumps (especially the 3-3, because I thought the 3axel was amazing!) were not better than Vaugh...but the technical element scores are based on 8 elements and the jumps are only 3 of them...Patrick managed to get level 4 on everything else which means on 6 elements! The other competitors did not do this and I don't think Plushenko did this either...but he got 100 points!

bibi wrote:

chiyori wrote:

Hmmm I had a good feeling about this comp until the last competitor. An average Chan with a hand down on his planned combination and who could only tack a double on his planned solo triple just scored 90.14... I agree that Patrick should have the highest PCS (though maybe not by 11 points), but he also has the highest TES while Chipeur was clean and very much "on"...

Anyway, I get that they're trying to give him a confidence boost but a 12 point lead is pushing it in my opinion. It's just disappointing for the other skaters who did not seem to benefit from the typical Nationals overscoring.


ETA: How did you manage to copy-paste those tables, bibi?

ahah, I just copy-paste it from the results page that I found on skatecanada.ca I underlined here (the mens results for examplehttp://www.patinagecanada.ca/fr/events_results/events/cdns10Result.cfm)it all and it worked fine

as for PatChan,
I agree with you that his jumps (especially the 3-3, because I thought the 3axel was amazing!) were not better than Vaugh...but the technical element scores are based on 8 elements and the jumps are only 3 of them...Patrick managed to get level 4 on everything else which means on 6 elements! The other competitors did not do this and I don't think Plushenko did this either...but he got 100 points!

That's what I did and it didn't work! Ah well I'll leave it to you then.

About Patrick, I agree with you. He is stronger than all of the other competitors. His 3A was gorgeous, his spins are very good and his footwork is amazing! He hits all the levels and gets very good GOEs to boot... But jumps are still the bigger (higher scoring) elements of a program for me and that's why I think that while Patrick being in the lead is fine, the scores could have been closer together. Anyway, it's over now so no use complaining And for the record, I did not like Plushy's score either and I thought Dai-chan was overmarked. But Nationals are Nationals and there's nothing we can do about it

Whoa! It seems Joannie came back with a vengeance, skated a 7 triple program and scored 144.08 in the FS. Total score of 208.23.

Now I wanna see that FS... It must've been an awesome skate. Here's the FS protocol:
http://www.skatecanada.ca/en/events_results/events/cdns10/results/sd4.pdf

Er...that's gotta be some free skate...

Don't get me wrong, I like Joannie, but...wow.

When I first saw Joannie's score, I thought "Wow... the judges must be deseperate.". I already saw the LP and it was really good, but 144.08 is a little over the top. Anyways, congratulations to Joannie and Cynthia for making the Olympic team.



The FD is over and Tessa & Scott won with 221.95 points and Vanessa & Paul in 2nd. Does that mean Vanessa & Paul get to go to the Olympics?

I just watched Chan's SP. WTH? When I saw the score I thought he skated the lights out -. and even in this case I suspected the Nationals Overscoring Factor to come into play. ...But over 90 for that?! The promoting of the "aces" of the country is just . So far the scoring at USA Nationals seems to be (by far) the most realistic so far.

I'm loosing any hope for fair scoring in Vancouver - I just hope some of my favorites will stay until Sochi (and build enough reputation to guarantee not being overlooked during the overscoring process). CoP is becoming even easier to manipulate than 6.0. Just throw all lvl4 all of a sudden, and +3 GoE on a jump with a shaky edge on the landing, while a perfect jump by other skater will be lucky to get +1. And even if the skater botches half of their jumping passages, there's always PCS to take care of things.

With Joannie's LP, I'm actually not all that surprised (considering her 70 points SP at SC). Her LP is very smartly choreographed, she did skate the lights out, and 7 triples in the LP is something we rarely see these days.
Of course, Akiko with 7 triples will be lucky to get 115-120...

Seeing Chan SP scores make me want to do this to the judges. It is rediculous

Well, at least PatChan's LP performance appears to be better than his SP. That said, I have to say I'm complete bemused that Skate Canada is giving an even bigger Nats buffer in their scores than the Russian Federation this year...

new article about Joannie http://www.intro2u.net/new/2010/01/figure-skating-squad/

Best part of the article is when Joannie praises Mao "“The only woman in the world who can do a clean triple Axel – she’s amazing." Joannie is so sweet. Looks like she is a fan of Mao.

aoi88 wrote:

Best part of the article is when Joannie praises Mao "“The only woman in the world who can do a clean triple Axel – she’s amazing." Joannie is so sweet. Looks like she is a fan of Mao.

Joannie Rochette just made my day!
Aww, she really does think Mao is the best. That's just awesome! Bravo to her for freely praising her competitors!

Pretty good competition this year! I like seeing everyone fight so hard

I agree with everyone about Patrick. He was very overscored. Especially in his SP. Poor Vaughn. Yes, Patrick probably did do the best overall, but I think the final scores should have been much closer than they were. Vaughn was underscored IMO. At least he gets to go to Vacouver though

Joannies LP was freakin fantastic!! Definitely one of the best skates I've seen anyone do all season, and probably the best I've seen her skate yet.

Pairs was great - as always in Canadian Nationals! I wasn't surprised at all the Annabell and Cody did well. If they hadn't have been injured, and set back, they would probably still be the number one team in Canada. Lot's of promissing pairs to watch for in the future too.

Batsuchan wrote:

aoi88 wrote:

Best part of the article is when Joannie praises Mao "“The only woman in the world who can do a clean triple Axel – she’s amazing." Joannie is so sweet. Looks like she is a fan of Mao.

Joannie Rochette just made my day!
Aww, she really does think Mao is the best. That's just awesome! Bravo to her for freely praising her competitors!

That's sweet of her! THat's the second time (right?) that she praises her!

aoi88 wrote:

Best part of the article is when Joannie praises Mao "“The only woman in the world who can do a clean triple Axel – she’s amazing." Joannie is so sweet. Looks like she is a fan of Mao.

Awww!!! Joannie is really sweet! It's interesting to note that Yu-Na is the one who's breaking records and is being talked about as very hard to beat but Joannie is in awe of Mao more.

another article about Joannie (in french!)
http://vivezvancouver.radio-canada.ca/vivezvancouver/Patinage_artistique/2010/01/18/001-semaine-rochette.shtml

Quote :

« Kim est battable, mais quand elle est à son mieux, c'est
difficile. Elle est dans une classe à part. Ce n'est pas la plus
gracieuse, mais sa vitesse et sa technique sont excellentes. C'est
spectaculaire de la voir rentrer dans un saut avec la vitesse qu'elle
prend. »
« Mao est plus gracieuse. J'admire énormément Yu-Na et Mao. Je suis
assez réaliste et je suis capable de voir mes concurrentes et de leur
donner ce qui leur appartient. »

I'll try to translate it for you guys:

'' Kim is beatable, but when she is at her best, is difficult. She is in a class by herself. She is not the most graceful, but she has excellent speed and technique. It's spectacular to see her jump with the speed she takes. "

"Mao is more graceful. I admire greatly Yu-Na and Mao. I'm pretty realistic and I can see my competitors and give them what they deserve. "