Mao News - The 2012-2013 Season!

I see it that way, Mao wants to add 3a to her short and 3-3 to her Long. 3a,3f-2lo,3lo. And 3lo,2a-3t,3f-3t,3lz,3s,3lo-2lo-2lo, 3f. Or both 3a,2a-3t,3f,3lz,3s,3f-3lo,3lo-2lo-2lo.

polosatik wrote:

I see it that way, Mao wants to add 3a to her short and 3-3 to her Long. 3a,3f-2lo,3lo. And 3lo,2a-3t,3f-3t,3lz,3s,3lo-2lo-2lo, 3f. Or both 3a,2a-3t,3f,3lz,3s,3f-3lo,3lo-2lo-2lo.

She can't do 3Lo, 2A-3T, 3F-3T, 3Lz,3S, 3Lo-2lo-2lo, 3F because she would repeat 3 triples: 3T, 3F and 3Lo

polosatik wrote:

I see it that way, Mao wants to add 3a to her short and 3-3 to her Long. 3a,3f-2lo,3lo. And 3lo,2a-3t,3f-3t,3lz,3s,3lo-2lo-2lo, 3f. Or both 3a,2a-3t,3f,3lz,3s,3f-3lo,3lo-2lo-2lo.

it's more likely the opposite I think it's more likely that Mao will add a 3-3 in the sp and replace the 3lo with a 3A in the free

ballerinamao wrote:

polosatik wrote:

I see it that way, Mao wants to add 3a to her short and 3-3 to her Long. 3a,3f-2lo,3lo. And 3lo,2a-3t,3f-3t,3lz,3s,3lo-2lo-2lo, 3f. Or both 3a,2a-3t,3f,3lz,3s,3f-3lo,3lo-2lo-2lo.

it's more likely the opposite I think it's more likely that Mao will add a 3-3 in the sp and replace the 3lo with a 3A in the free

I think that the 3Lo will remain where it is, because the choreography is already done that way, I think that the 3A (is she chooses to put it into the FS) will be where the 2A+3T is at the moment... Which is strange, too, considering how much she worked on it! So, maybe something like this: 3A, 2A+3T, 3F+3Lo, 3Lz, 3S, 3Lo+2Lo+2Lo, 3F+2Lo. I hope they add some transitions before the 3S so it will be in the second half and receive the 10% bonus!

Mao2012 wrote:

ballerinamao wrote:

polosatik wrote:

I see it that way, Mao wants to add 3a to her short and 3-3 to her Long. 3a,3f-2lo,3lo. And 3lo,2a-3t,3f-3t,3lz,3s,3lo-2lo-2lo, 3f. Or both 3a,2a-3t,3f,3lz,3s,3f-3lo,3lo-2lo-2lo.

it's more likely the opposite I think it's more likely that Mao will add a 3-3 in the sp and replace the 3lo with a 3A in the free

I think that the 3Lo will remain where it is, because the choreography is already done that way, I think that the 3A (is she chooses to put it into the FS) will be where the 2A+3T is at the moment... Which is strange, too, considering how much she worked on it! So, maybe something like this: 3A, 2A+3T, 3F+3Lo, 3Lz, 3S, 3Lo+2Lo+2Lo, 3F+2Lo. I hope they add some transitions before the 3S so it will be in the second half and receive the 10% bonus!

I agree, but she can't do 4 combo so probably her last jumping pass would be a solo 3F

polosatik wrote:

Dani-Chan wrote:

linglang wrote:

Thanks COHK. Yes, you are right! It's 3F-3. Thank you for correction.

jfiaeofje I hope she puts the 3F-3Lo since she used to have it before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v9tkFjbWgg

I always forget. Which is the 3-3 combo with highest value?

From triple-triple 3lutz-3loop. But no one is doing it now. combos with loops are much more difficult.

Oh I remember Miki did that combo, right?

I don't know if I should post this here on in the Japanese National thread, but since everyone came back to this one. I'll leave it here
Another video of Mao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzJkl5wLJqs

Abdiel wrote:

polosatik wrote:

Dani-Chan wrote:

linglang wrote:

Thanks COHK. Yes, you are right! It's 3F-3. Thank you for correction.

jfiaeofje I hope she puts the 3F-3Lo since she used to have it before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v9tkFjbWgg

I always forget. Which is the 3-3 combo with highest value?

From triple-triple 3lutz-3loop. But no one is doing it now. combos with loops are much more difficult.

Theoretically, the 3-3 with the highest base value is a 3A-3Lo. 3A combos are exceptionally rare in the ladies' field, and I know only Mao (3A-2T and 3A-2Lo, but the latter never in competition) and Midori Ito (3A-3T in practice for Olys). Among the feasible 3-3 jumps, yes, a 3Lz-3Lo has the highest base value. Remember that loop combos with the loop at the back end of the combo are more difficult to do because only the landing leg from the front end propels the skater into the back end of the combo. 3-3Lo users are rare, and these include Mao (3F-3Lo), Tara Lipinski (3Lo-3Lo), Miki Ando (3Lz-3Lo) and Adelina Sotnikova (3lz-3Lo). Many others use the 3T as the second jump (Kim, Kostner, Tuktamysheva).

OH TBH that 3A combo didn't even come to my mind cuz I guess I never seen it before. It was attempted?

I will be thrilled and thoroughly impressed if Mao does any 3-3, and I think she should just do whichever one she feels most comfortable with. She already scores high without a 3A or 3-3. She doesn't need a very difficult 3-3, especially if she does the 3A again too. She doesn't have a whole hell of a lot left to prove either. She's already challenging herself so much. I don't want the 3-3 thing to be a bigger deal for her than it has to be.

hey guys look what i found love it, when Mao holds her gold medal from the GPF and shows it to the camera!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwxjyZLhyWw

Dani-Chan wrote:

OH TBH that 3A combo didn't even come to my mind cuz I guess I never seen it before. It was attempted?

The only women who have landed 3A combos are Midori Ito (3A+2T in competition at the 1991 NHK Trophy and Nationals, and 3A+3T in practice, you can see it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQgR0cBsK4Y and here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKs7NFGnkOk , then Tonya Harding landed 3A+2T at the 1991 skate America SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVz07QH2USM and then our Mao that landed a lot of 3A+2T and attempted a 3A+2Lo at the 2006 Junior Worlds SP, she didn't land it, but I guess that she could in practice if she tried it in comp... I don't know about any lady who has actually landed 3A+3Lo even in practice...

ballerinamao wrote:

polosatik wrote:

I see it that way, Mao wants to add 3a to her short and 3-3 to her Long. 3a,3f-2lo,3lo. And 3lo,2a-3t,3f-3t,3lz,3s,3lo-2lo-2lo, 3f. Or both 3a,2a-3t,3f,3lz,3s,3f-3lo,3lo-2lo-2lo.

it's more likely the opposite I think it's more likely that Mao will add a 3-3 in the sp and replace the 3lo with a 3A in the free

I think so too, at least this is the best way to go, imo. If she puts 3A in the sp, it puts her under a lot of pressure, not to mention it also costs her a lot if 3A isn't successful, meanwhile, in the LP she can make it up in case of a mistake on 3A. But then this is Mao, so anything is possible...

Mao2012 wrote:

I don't know about any lady who has actually landed 3A+3Lo even in practice...

I think this combo is impossible for women to do and I think it's also insanely difficult for men. Has anyone (men, women) ever done it in competition?

I'm back again cause I found something I strongly felt I should let you know.
Sumitomo Seimei (a life insurance company) has started an event on the net in which you can send direct messages to Mao (but they will check the contents first so to disclude rude messages)! They will accept messages until March 31st, so you can use it to send encouragement messages to Mao for 4CC and Worlds.

http://mao-asada-ouen.jp/

Unfortunately the site is written only in Jpnse, but I checked and found out it's possible to send messages in Eng, so if you want to participate, the instructions are as below:


This is the top page of the messaging event. Click the large red button circled in blue to start.


The terms concerning participation in this event is written here, but there isn't anything important in it, just the usual stuff to be careful about copyrights and stuff, so just click the circled part which says 'I agree to the terms' and move on.


Write your nickname, message and choose the font you like here. But be careful about the following:
1. No messages concerning Sochi Olys is allowed. (Probably because Mao hasn't been chosen yet to go to Olys)
2. No inappropriate (I think they mean vulgar of hostile) nicknames are allowed.
3. Your nickname must be within 10 symbols / You can only use hiragana and chinese symbols or just numbers.
4. Your message must be within 30 symbols, letters or numbers and also must be written within 3 rows.
5. Your messages will be checked and then be sent to Mao, plus they will be introduced in this site from Jan 9th 2013.
*since you can only write very short messages, it might be better to write a simple message in Eng, and use auto-translation to turn it into Jpnse and copy-paste it. Chinese symbols work well in shortening the number of symbols.


Your nickname and message can be confirmed here, but it might take a few seconds before your message shows up. Be patient and after you see your message on this page, click the red button to submit it, or click the white button to go back to edit your message or nickname.


Once you've submitted your message successfully, the above page will appear. If you click the blue button written ' Log into Facebook' in Jpnse which I've circled, you will be given a visual badge as shown next to the photo of Mao, with your FB avatar in it. I haven't tried this part yet, so I'm not sure how it works though...if you want the badge but can't seem to manage to get one, ask someone who can read Jpnse or PM me later on. I'll try this part later and see how it works.

^ thank you so much for the information!
I hope you don't leave the forum, perhaps you should drop in once or twice a week to update us and chat with the members.
Your presence in this forum has been a great asset and joy for a while.
We can't force you to post, but you are always welcomed to!

Star85 wrote:

I will be thrilled and thoroughly impressed if Mao does any 3-3, and I think she should just do whichever one she feels most comfortable with. She already scores high without a 3A or 3-3. She doesn't need a very difficult 3-3, especially if she does the 3A again too. She doesn't have a whole hell of a lot left to prove either. She's already challenging herself so much. I don't want the 3-3 thing to be a bigger deal for her than it has to be.

Agreed, but I think she might need it to compete with the likes of Ashley and Yu-Na. I'd rather she go for the 3-3 than the 3A even though the 3A is really solid... but as you noted, the 3-3 could be a simple one. Knowing her, though, she is going to go for a 3F-3L.

zarinaballerina wrote:

Mao2012 wrote:

I don't know about any lady who has actually landed 3A+3Lo even in practice...

I think this combo is impossible for women to do and I think it's also insanely difficult for men. Has anyone (men, women) ever done it in competition?

3A-3Lo... I don't think it's ever been done by a lady. A man did it back in 1998 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqxQ6lzb-4I) but the one in the video may receive an UR call by today's judging system.

ballerinamao wrote:

hey guys look what i found love it, when Mao holds her gold medal from the GPF and shows it to the camera!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwxjyZLhyWw

Lovely!!! I love Mao's smile most of all.


And Pochi, thanks for the link and instructions! I've always dreamed of sending a message to Mao I'm glad you decided not to completely leave the forum and that you'd at least post when you deem it necessary.

Mao2012 wrote:

Dani-Chan wrote:

OH TBH that 3A combo didn't even come to my mind cuz I guess I never seen it before. It was attempted?

The only women who have landed 3A combos are Midori Ito (3A+2T in competition at the 1991 NHK Trophy and Nationals, and 3A+3T in practice, you can see it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQgR0cBsK4Y and here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKs7NFGnkOk , then Tonya Harding landed 3A+2T at the 1991 skate America SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVz07QH2USM and then our Mao that landed a lot of 3A+2T and attempted a 3A+2Lo at the 2006 Junior Worlds SP, she didn't land it, but I guess that she could in practice if she tried it in comp... I don't know about any lady who has actually landed 3A+3Lo even in practice...

OH TKS Midori's jump height will never cease to amaze

Abdiel wrote:

zarinaballerina wrote:

Mao2012 wrote:

I don't know about any lady who has actually landed 3A+3Lo even in practice...

I think this combo is impossible for women to do and I think it's also insanely difficult for men. Has anyone (men, women) ever done it in competition?

3A-3Lo... I don't think it's ever been done by a lady. A man did it back in 1998 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqxQ6lzb-4I) but the one in the video may receive an UR call by today's judging system.

OMG his outfit LOL Is really a nice combo

does anyone know if it's possible to watch the press conference from 2012 GPF? I really want to watch it, since i heard the media asked very strange questions?

I also just found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US9a6i4VWNk

Pochi, thanks a lot for that! I've been wanting to send Mao a letter/postcard but written in Japanese so dunno how long it'll take me. With this net event, I'll be motivated to compose that message! ;-)

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Uh, I just noticed my account (and other users' accts) having 5 stars with a dedicated mao fan label. Is this a new feature? Awesome!

roma wrote:

Pochi, thanks a lot for that! I've been wanting to send Mao a letter/postcard but written in Japanese so dunno how long it'll take me. With this net event, I'll be motivated to compose that message! ;-)

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Uh, I just noticed my account (and other users' accts) having 5 stars with a dedicated mao fan label. Is this a new feature? Awesome!

Yes, can someone explain me why there is a column with "+" and "-" written on the right side of each post?

Mao2012 wrote:

roma wrote:

Pochi, thanks a lot for that! I've been wanting to send Mao a letter/postcard but written in Japanese so dunno how long it'll take me. With this net event, I'll be motivated to compose that message! ;-)

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Uh, I just noticed my account (and other users' accts) having 5 stars with a dedicated mao fan label. Is this a new feature? Awesome!

Yes, can someone explain me why there is a column with "+" and "-" written on the right side of each post?

The plus and minus are actually a tool to give an opinion to a post, if you like it you give it+,if you don't like it for some reason then -.

polosatik wrote:

Mao2012 wrote:

roma wrote:

Pochi, thanks a lot for that! I've been wanting to send Mao a letter/postcard but written in Japanese so dunno how long it'll take me. With this net event, I'll be motivated to compose that message! ;-)

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Uh, I just noticed my account (and other users' accts) having 5 stars with a dedicated mao fan label. Is this a new feature? Awesome!

Yes, can someone explain me why there is a column with "+" and "-" written on the right side of each post?

The plus and minus are actually a tool to give an opinion to a post, if you like it you give it+,if you don't like it for some reason then -.

And about the stars? Only the users with a high number of posts have them?

Mao2012 wrote:

polosatik wrote:

Mao2012 wrote:

roma wrote:

Pochi, thanks a lot for that! I've been wanting to send Mao a letter/postcard but written in Japanese so dunno how long it'll take me. With this net event, I'll be motivated to compose that message! ;-)

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Uh, I just noticed my account (and other users' accts) having 5 stars with a dedicated mao fan label. Is this a new feature? Awesome!

Yes, can someone explain me why there is a column with "+" and "-" written on the right side of each post?

The plus and minus are actually a tool to give an opinion to a post, if you like it you give it+,if you don't like it for some reason then -.

And about the stars? Only the users with a high number of posts have them?

That's new too... I would guess the threshold is 1000 posts since I don't have them... Ah well, only a few to go!

Mao2012 wrote:

polosatik wrote:

Mao2012 wrote:

roma wrote:

Pochi, thanks a lot for that! I've been wanting to send Mao a letter/postcard but written in Japanese so dunno how long it'll take me. With this net event, I'll be motivated to compose that message! ;-)

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Uh, I just noticed my account (and other users' accts) having 5 stars with a dedicated mao fan label. Is this a new feature? Awesome!

Yes, can someone explain me why there is a column with "+" and "-" written on the right side of each post?

The plus and minus are actually a tool to give an opinion to a post, if you like it you give it+,if you don't like it for some reason then -.

And about the stars? Only the users with a high number of posts have them?

I think chiyori is right, when you reach 1000 number of posts you get five stars!

polosatik wrote:

Mao2012 wrote:

roma wrote:

Pochi, thanks a lot for that! I've been wanting to send Mao a letter/postcard but written in Japanese so dunno how long it'll take me. With this net event, I'll be motivated to compose that message! ;-)

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Uh, I just noticed my account (and other users' accts) having 5 stars with a dedicated mao fan label. Is this a new feature? Awesome!

Yes, can someone explain me why there is a column with "+" and "-" written on the right side of each post?

The plus and minus are actually a tool to give an opinion to a post, if you like it you give it+,if you don't like it for some reason then -.

Yeah, we had this for a while about a year back, I want to say? And then each person also had "points," which I didn't fully understand. The admins must have been busy!