NHK Trophy 2008

Subject: Re: NHK Trophy 2008 Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:28 pm

It took a *bit* longer than I expected, but the Eurosport version of Mao's FS is finally on the web! Dance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT0mzbTcfN8 Thumbs up!

"What about that for a performance!" -Chris
"I stand corrected...absolutely wonderful interpretation!" -Nicky Wink

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Great commentary as always! I especially loved the comment about the step sequence looking as if created by ice dancers. Thumbs up!

The Sunday Sports had some sweet and funny moments. Mao and Nobu are so kind and humble. It made me even more happy for their win. Many Hearts

Subject: Re: NHK Trophy 2008 Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:53 pm

Chris and Nicky are my absolute favourites Cheering

And I think it's fantastic that British Eurosport is dedicating so much air time to skating. Makes me wish I lived there just so I could get live access to their coverage Cloud 9

. CBC's only concerned with about three events a year: SC, nationals and worlds... Not bad but I wish they'd pay more attention to the GP this close to the Olys and with so many promising canadian skaters. Oh well, at least I can get videos online thanks to you guys Thank you!

Subject: Re: NHK Trophy 2008 Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:13 pm

Youtube version of Eurosport coverage officially removed by U.S. Figure Skating (aka Icenetwork).

Ugh. As well as the original FS vid that garnered 180,000+ views and all the other NHK vids. I understand they have the broadcasting rights, but maybe if they bothered to look at the statistics and the international audience...(it was one of the most watched and discussed sport videos this weekend over stuff like basketball and football!) Rolling Eyes

Advertisers, start noticing and get a clue!! I cannot believe the lack of support L.A. Worlds is getting - NBC is only airing 2 hours worth of worlds (Ladies FS), the rest is on Oxygen where the casual TV watcher won't notice or care. silent

And with that thought, here is muffin14's version of Eurosport's coverage of Mao's Masquerade LP on DM: https://www.dailymotion.com/search/mao%2Basada/video/x7kvzy_mao-asada-2008-nhk-lp_sport

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Drats! I have the videos on my HD by now, but I wanted to save the nice comments! Frustrated

I didn't made it in time! Very Mad

Quote :: Advertisers, start noticing and get a clue!!

I agree. I think they are missing an opportunity. Disappointed

What's more, I think IceNetwork and Youtube are not mutually exclusive. People go to IceNetwork for live coverage, and to Youtube to discuss performances and interact with other fans.
Not to mention the fact that probably about 80 percent of people who watch the videos are from Japan and Korea, and it's not like they can watch the GP on IceNetwork, because it's blocked outside of USA! Lips sealed

Subject: Re: NHK Trophy 2008 Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:56 pm

Okami wrote:: Not to mention the fact that probably about 80 percent of people who watch the videos are from Japan and Korea, and it's not like they can watch the GP on IceNetwork, because it's blocked outside of USA!

Agreed. It is a bit ironic that the one requesting it IS USFS, and not the Japanese federation. While JASRAC and other Japanese networks are fundamentally very strict and attempt to have videos of their shows and music removed pronto, it remains quite different for skating. I think they do realize that exposure is required for the sport to maintain popularity, and I do sense a bit of ego in the Japanese federation's part to let the world indeed know that their singles skaters are doing very well in the world (not a bad thing, since they really are doing excellent! Very Happy

).

It's a pity narrow-minded business decisions have to be made like this. There are tons of musicians and television personalities who made it big because of the Web. If given a chance, I think "secondary" sports like diving/skating/gymnastics/synchronized swimming can be very popular - it's so enjoyable to watch, and the physical feats themselves are on par with, if not more impressive than "mainstream" sports like basketball, football, etc. They aren't getting the funds or investors though (not the case for Japan, obviously), so in places like the U.S. they'll always play second fiddle to the corporate giants of NFL/NBA/MLB, even stuff like Championship Poker and Purina dog shows! scratch

Subject: Re: NHK Trophy 2008 Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:48 pm

That is really annoying. I don't understand why no broadcaster had purchased the exclusive rights to skating coverage in the US... it's probably the only major country that doesn't. For that reason, IN feels it is within its right to charge US fans who want to access live coverage (although I gathered that the service is quite poor). Since they want as many fans as possible to register, of course they would consider YT as a threat. On the other hand, I think they failed to notice that skating is broadcasted and available free of charge to fans in Canada, most of Europe, Japan, China and many other countries (not a 100% sure about this but correct me if I'm wrong).

I personally grew really annoyed with not being able to use YT for its original purpose and am now downloading from a figure skating vids forum. It takes up space on my computer but it's a small sacrifice to enjoy Mao's program in HQ with Chris and Nicky Woot!

Subject: Re: NHK Trophy 2008 Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:51 pm

Quote :: CBC's only concerned with about three events a
year: SC, nationals and worlds... Not bad but I wish they'd pay more
attention to the GP this close to the Olys and with so many promising
canadian skaters.

Actually, this year, CBC are broadcasting all the Grand Prix series but 2 weeks later (so this week end, it was TEB). Also, you can watch the Grand Prix on Canal Évasion.

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Subject: Re: NHK Trophy 2008 Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:29 pm

oh! They all look so gorgeous!!

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Thanks for all the links to the videos and photos. NHK trophy was really exciting.
I got to see the British Eurosport version yesterday and I'm so happy Nicky took back his words about Mao's music and performance for the LP Confetti

There was one line I didn't quite understand. The part is almost at the end of the commentary, Nicky says "And if you're going to leave it, have a little stotter (?). Leave it till the last moment." Maybe my ears got it wrong? Can anyone tell me what that means??

Subject: Re: NHK Trophy 2008 Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:39 am

bibi wrote:

Quote :: CBC's only concerned with about three events a
year: SC, nationals and worlds... Not bad but I wish they'd pay more
attention to the GP this close to the Olys and with so many promising
canadian skaters.

Actually, this year, CBC are broadcasting all the Grand Prix series but 2 weeks later (so this week end, it was TEB). Also, you can watch the Grand Prix on Canal Évasion.

Thanks bibi! I didn't know about Canal Évasion... if it's in French, is it commented by the pillars of french canadian figure skating competition aka Alain Goldberg et Richard Garneau lol!

If so, that would be awesome! There's nothing that brings more memories than these two. They've just been doing that for soooo long!

Hello mitsuno! Nicky said stutter and was refering to the slight stumble Mao had coming out of her final spin. Laugh

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Thanks chiyori! What a difference the "o" and the "u" makes Laugh

I hope someone will upload the CBC commentary version on YT too Wub

Subject: Re: NHK Trophy 2008 Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:26 am

May be because I'm russian Razz

but I love NTV plus commentary, Vasya is awesome , he adores Mao! Also he usually comments with TAT.

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mitsuno wrote:: The part is almost at the end of the commentary, Nicky says "And if you're going to leave it, have a little stotter (?). Leave it till the last moment." Maybe my ears got it wrong? Can anyone tell me what that means??

I think Nicky wanted to say "If you have a little stutter, leave it until the last moment!", but stuttered a bit himself. Laugh

Sadly I understand only a few words in Russian, so I can't really enjoy the NTV commentary... I can only guess things by the tone of the voice. Laugh

It would be great to hear the CBC commentary! Kurt and Brenda are doing the commentary for the GP series, aren't they?

Also... Mao's Lutz in practice! Woot!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x2PeG_C9OE
A good angle, finally, and the jump looks just perfect! cheers

Subject: Re: NHK Trophy 2008 Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:45 pm

Quote :: if it's in French, is it commented by the
pillars of french canadian figure skating competition aka Alain
Goldberg et Richard Garneau
If so, that would be awesome! There's nothing that brings more memories
than these two. They've just been doing that for soooo long!

Yes it is!!

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Aww!

Also, Miki in the audience doing a "thumbs up" pose when Nobu's LP scores were announced! Thumbs up!

Subject: Re: NHK Trophy 2008 Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:51 pm

Okami wrote:: Also, Miki in the audience doing a "thumbs up" pose when Nobu's LP scores were announced!

I didn't know Miki was in Japan!
thanks Very Happy

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inskate wrote:: I think Nicky wanted to say "If you have a little stutter, leave it until the last moment!", but stuttered a bit himself.

Thanks for the explanation inskate flower

I don't think Nicky imagined he'd correct himself so early after TEB Laugh

Has anyone seen the CBC version for TEB? I'm checking YT everyday but no luck Sad

I wish I could understand Russian too. I remember the commentator giving out a big "sigh" after Mao's LP in Paris, but couldn't figure out whether he was disappointed or not Sweatdrop

Subject: Re: NHK Trophy 2008 Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:32 pm

Quote :: Has anyone seen the CBC version for TEB? I'm checking YT everyday but no luck

erm well I have it but it's not mine and since I downloaded it from fsvids.net, where there has very recently been of lot (and I mean a lot) of complaining about people posting other's property outside of the forum, I'd feel really awful posting it here. You guys tell me what you think...

These vidmakers flagging their videos as soon as they come up on YT (I'm not complaining here; it's obviously their right since they made it) combined with IceNetwork's handy work of removing anything skating is probably why there aren't any videos from CBC. I'm starting to hate IN Very Mad

Every single GP video from this season I click on is "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by U.S. Figure Skating"... gggrrrrrrr

Kurt was really impressed with the vehicle (the program, music, choreo) and did not at any point mention that it might not be right for her (I love him so much). He said she and TAT were probably still ajusting to the many changes this season, was raving about her 3A (even if two-footed) and her gorgeous footwork. You can tell she's one of his favourite skaters Wub

As for NHK on CBC with commentary (not the web version), I'm checking the schedule and I don't see anything. If you guys see something on their schedule, please tell me!! I'll be the first in front on the TV lol!

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Thanks for the summary of the CBC commentary! I totally missed it. Lips sealed

I hope they'll show NHK as well, but probably we'll have to wait. TEB was aired almost 2 weeks after it was over, wasn't it? Snow

Subject: Re: NHK Trophy 2008 Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:54 am

Quote :: TEB was aired almost 2 weeks after it was over, wasn't it?

Yes, it's two weeks.

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Thanks for the info, Chiyori! Don't bother about posting the vids. I don't want anyone to get in trouble Wink

Besides, I'm happy enough to know that Kurt was impressed. It always makes me smile that such a great skater is a Mao fan Many Hearts

Thanks again!

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