Mao News: Off-Season 2013

But Japan has no chance of even placing on the podium for the team event, to be honest. The battle will be among the American, Canadian and Russian teams I suppose.

linglang wrote:

pearlyriver wrote:

And in 2010 Vancouver Olympics, she was on her dream stage and succeeded landing 3 3As in one competition, making a Guinness record.  However, she made two mistakes and ended up with silver medal.

But even if she had skated clean that time, she would still have scored less than Yuna, wouldn't she?

Regarding 2010 worlds, Mr. Amano was another reason why her obviously clean performances were underscored with unjustifiable calls. About a year ago, I saw a clip of his performance at worlds where he attempted 3A and ended up in a three jump.  It wasn't 1A nor 2A, but a huge three turn.   There was a speculation back then that he's so jealous about Mao that he's very strict and scrutinized her 3As. I thought it's a good joke, but after watching the clip, I believed it.

You mean Shin Amano? What did he do? Funny that rabid Yuna bots often accuse a Japanese technical specialist of making wrong calls on her jumps and a Swiss specialist (whose name I don't remember) of receiving bribe from JSF to sabotage her scores.  Come on.

zarinaballerina wrote:

THIS. I loved Mao's Swan Lake, but I get a feeling, that TAT is recycling her old works on Mao. First with "The Bells" LP, then with Swan Lake and now Rachmaninov. I believe that Rachmaninov will be a masterpiece, but there are many other famous Russian composer to choose from, why this overused music? And if TAT is unable to think of anyone else, at least give her other parts of the concerto. Honestly, sometimes I think that TAT has a CD with top 100 music to skate to, on it, and it's the only CD that she's willing to use. Sorry if this sounds a bit mean, but it's just how I feel.

I think TAt has run out of ideas for a long time. I find Swan Lake generic for Mao's level. I think Yuka Ota's Swan Lake is better, disregarding the jumps. To be honest, I prefer the choreography of Akiko, Kanako, Caro and Zijun last season. They demonstrate how a great choreographed program can transcend a performance and compliment the skaters.

chapis wrote:

chapis wrote:

zarinaballerina wrote:

chapis wrote:

If Mao is planning a 8 triples program, then she is planning to do a lutz??, I wonder how is doing with lutz because she had not included that jump like in 2 seasons??

She did 3Lutz last season. It was actually rather good at times.

Thank you, I am going to check it.

but she got "e" in NHK, China, 4CC and worlds  , damn judges  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GywQa2WKoEE&feature=youtu.be#t=1m18s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GywQa2WKoEE&feature=youtu.be#t=6m45s

I think it's 3lz, isn't it?  Looking at the trajectory and edge, I thought it's 3lz.  But I cannot trust my eyes, which still need more training.   Could someone please check it?  It may be difficult to judge from this angle though, how it could be rated if it's 3lz?

pearlyriver wrote:

linglang wrote:

pearlyriver wrote:

And in 2010 Vancouver Olympics, she was on her dream stage and succeeded landing 3 3As in one competition, making a Guinness record.  However, she made two mistakes and ended up with silver medal.

But even if she had skated clean that time, she would still have scored less than Yuna, wouldn't she?

Regarding 2010 worlds, Mr. Amano was another reason why her obviously clean performances were underscored with unjustifiable calls. About a year ago, I saw a clip of his performance at worlds where he attempted 3A and ended up in a three jump.  It wasn't 1A nor 2A, but a huge three turn jump.   There was a speculation back then that he's so jealous about Mao that he's very strict and scrutinized her 3As. I thought it's a good joke, but after watching the clip, I believed it.

You mean Shin Amano? What did he do? Funny that rabid Yuna bots often accuse a Japanese technical specialist of making wrong calls on her jumps and a Swiss specialist (whose name I don't remember) of receiving bribe from JSF to sabotage her scores.  Come on.

Yes, Shin Amamo.  I meant by three jump (not three turn and I corrected above error) "waltz jump".  I googled and found out "three jump" is a Japanese term. Sorry for confusion.  

And "waltz jump" is https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=%22waltz+jump%22&client=firefox-a&hs=3cu&rls=org.mozilla:ja:official&hl=ja&channel=fflb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=tC9JUurMI4eGkgWi9oDABw&ved=0CDAQsAQ&biw=1252&bih=578&dpr=1.09

Even elite male skaters struggle with 3A and fail at competitions from time to time.  I don't mean to laugh at him for failed attempt. But, ending up in a waltz jump, not 1A nor 2A, must be so embarrassing for a male skater who's good enough to compete at worlds.    As rumor says he doesn't like girls doing 3A.

linglang wrote:

chapis wrote:

chapis wrote:

zarinaballerina wrote:

chapis wrote:

If Mao is planning a 8 triples program, then she is planning to do a lutz??, I wonder how is doing with lutz because she had not included that jump like in 2 seasons??

She did 3Lutz last season. It was actually rather good at times.

Thank you, I am going to check it.

but she got "e" in NHK, China, 4CC and worlds  , damn judges  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GywQa2WKoEE&feature=youtu.be#t=1m18s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GywQa2WKoEE&feature=youtu.be#t=6m45s

I think it's 3lz, isn't it?  Looking at the trajectory and edge, I thought it's 3lz.  But I cannot trust my eyes, which still need more training.   Could someone please check it?  It may be difficult to judge from this angle though, how it could be rated if it's 3lz?

Hard to tell from that angle. Especially with how fast the jump was. It would be a little easier to see from the back or front.

linglang wrote:

Yes, Shin Amamo.  I meant by three jump (not three turn and I corrected above error) "waltz jump".  I googled and found out "three jump" is a Japanese term. Sorry for confusion.  

And "waltz jump" is https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=%22waltz+jump%22&client=firefox-a&hs=3cu&rls=org.mozilla:ja:official&hl=ja&channel=fflb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=tC9JUurMI4eGkgWi9oDABw&ved=0CDAQsAQ&biw=1252&bih=578&dpr=1.09

Even elite male skaters struggle with 3A and fail at competitions from time to time.  I don't mean to laugh at him for failed attempt. But, ending up in a waltz jump, not 1A nor 2A, must be so embarrassing for a male skater who's good enough to compete at worlds.    As rumor says he doesn't like girls doing 3A.

Thanks for the information  . Do you skate? I think there are so many things about jumps, transition and edge that I will probably never know if I don't take skating lessons. You really have to get out on the ice and see how they work.

pearlyriver wrote:

But Japan has no chance of even placing on the podium for the team event, to be honest. The battle will be among the American, Canadian and Russian teams I suppose.

True, and the chance now is even slimmer, as it has been announced that Chris Reed has been suffering from quite serious injury at one knee and will probably have to skip NHK.
(It was  to read about the news from their blog...they fought hard for that spot...)

I think that Mao's lutz is still a flutz... (not a bad one like Kanako's, but still slightly a flutz, just like Akiko's)

Mao2012 wrote:

I think that Mao's lutz is still a flutz... (not a bad one like Kanako's, but still slightly a flutz, just like Akiko's)

Yeah, I think if it's a deep edge, we can make a convincing argument for Mao, but since it's not very obvious, she's always given an edge call due to her being known for flutz.

http://hon.gakken.jp/book/1020372800 new book of Mao and combined part of the book which was cancelled in 2012(?)
浅田真央　そして、その瞬間へ

table of content

プロローグ　さらなる高みへ

第１章　決意
新たなるスタート
驚愕のスピン
ジャンプの修正
才能あるがゆえの困難
激しさを増した練習
新たなるトリプルアクセル
２０１０‐１１年シーズンの開幕
全日本選手権２０１０　ショート
全日本選手権２０１０　フリー
試合後の夜

第２章　約束
２０１１年滑り初め
師弟の絆
生まれ変わった『愛の夢』
四大陸選手権２０１１　台北大会
開催地の変更
食事制限
スタミナ
自分で決めなさい
真央スマイル
あとは勇気だけ
今できる精一杯
元気出していこう！
見とれてしまう
真央の世界
唯一の涙
母の笑顔
約束

第３章　進化
進化する練習スタイル
真央を必ず一番にする
『シェヘラザード』
ふたたびの『愛の夢』
鎮魂の『ジュピター』
運転免許とオフの意味
久美子コーチのｉＰａｄ
真央のルーティンワーク
「流れで跳ぶ」ジャンプへの挑戦
新シーズンへの助走
初戦に向けて

第４章　封印
やるしかない
『シェヘラザード』初披露
トリプルアクセルの封印
新技の成功
３年ぶりのファイナルへ

第５章　別れ
旅立ち
緊急帰国
夢
ぬくもり
全日本、出ます
１週間ぶりのリンクの感触
普段どおりを貫いて

第６章　試練
目標に向かって
新しい衣装
コロラドスプリングス
四大陸選手権２０１２　ショート
不安材料の解消
フリー直前
四大陸選手権２０１２　フリー
信夫先生は絶対にあきらめない
パーフェクトな『愛の夢』を目指して
世界選手権２０１２　フランス大会
公式練習２日目
公式練習３日目
ショート本番当日
あえて挑んだトリプルアクセル
後悔はしたくない
『愛の夢』、最後の演技
「今までやってきたことは、無駄だった」

第７章　心の階段
もうスケートをやめよう
舞の言葉
「ショーのため」のプログラム
ローリーの心づかい
前向きな気持ち
超高難度プログラムの誕生
ゾルタン・ナギ
充実のハンガリー滞在
信夫コーチとの練習再開
アイスショー
バレエ
越智久美子と浅田匡子の約束
白鳥の羽ばたき
夏、強化合宿で感じた思い
真央のスケート靴
エッジの研磨
「信夫コーチの言っていることがわかる」
トリプルアクセルは先でいい
ジャパンオープン２０１２

第８章　連続優勝
オレンジ色の衣装
楽しむ心と逆転優勝
休日返上の余波
納得の演技
悪化する腰痛
アイスブルク・パレス
痛みとの闘い
最後の最後まで踏ん張れ！
４年ぶりのグランプリファイナル制覇
忘れ物

第９章　復活への軌道
曲のなかで跳べるようになってから
たった一つのミス
全日本選手権２０１２　フリー
将来への思い
信夫コーチとのマンツーマン
自分との対話
新たなる『アイ・ガット・リズム』
真央のスケートが持つ力
『白鳥の湖』の新衣装
舞との賭け
トリプルアクセル復活
長かった
挑戦の白鳥

第１０章　究極への道
猛練習
「パーフェクト」
次は真央ががんばってくるよ
現地入り
ショート前日
ショート当日
世界選手権２０１３女子ショート　
落ち込みそうになる気持ちをこらえて
回転過剰
フリー前夜のトレーニング
フリー当日、公式練習
フリー前の６分間練習
いつもどおり
世界選手権２０１３　フリー
達成感と悔しさと
残る課題は「あと３つだけ」

エピローグ　そして、その瞬間へ

浅田真央　氷上の軌跡
２０１０－２０１１シーズン
２０１１－２０１２シーズン
２０１２－２０１３シーズン

Are they going to ship it? I wanna order that book even if I can't read it.

roma wrote:

Are they going to ship it? I wanna order that book even if I can't read it.

I think you can pre-order it from now on. And the book will be published/shipped on Oct. 23.
The TOC looks like Mao's life since Vancouver Oly to present in detail....
I'd like to have a copy too, probably to practice my Japanese more
I hope amazon.co.jp will also carry this book. I'm not sure if they ship internationally from the current website.  

COHK wrote:

roma wrote:

Are they going to ship it? I wanna order that book even if I can't read it.

I think you can pre-order it from now on. And the book will be published/shipped on Oct. 23.
The TOC looks like Mao's life since Vancouver Oly to present in detail....
I'd like to have a copy too, probably to practice my Japanese more
I hope amazon.co.jp will also carry this book. I'm not sure if they ship internationally from the current website.  

I had expected it to cover her childhood. I'm desperately curious to know how she was brought up to become such a love graceful strong lady. 

pearlyriver wrote:

Thanks for the information . Do you skate? I think there are so many things about jumps, transition and edge that I will probably never know if I don't take skating lessons. You really have to get out on the ice and see how they work.

No I don't skate, although I'd often go to a small ice rink which was open only in winter when I was a child.  I started to learn about figure skating techniques since I lurked/joined this forum, thanks to knowledgeable members. I liked watching competitions on TV but my attention was to costume, arm movements, shape of skater's body and if she looked like a princess or not.

People say figure skating popularity in Japan will decline after Mao and Dai retire.  I think I will keep watching and supporting because this sport is so deep both in technique and artistic aspect. Also I will look forward to seeing Mao, Dai and other skaters at K&C when they become a coach for next generation.

pearlyriver wrote:

Mao2012 wrote:

I think that Mao's lutz is still a flutz... (not a bad one like Kanako's, but still slightly a flutz, just like Akiko's)

Yeah, I think if it's a deep edge, we can make a convincing argument for Mao, but since it's not very obvious, she's always given an edge call due to her being known for flutz.

mmm... I hope Mao will not care about edge call at all because if she does she will slow down, I suppose.  I hope she will throw her body into the air without giving a f*** about judges.

shikure wrote:

http://hon.gakken.jp/book/1020372800 new book of Mao and combined part of the book which was cancelled in 2012(?)
浅田真央　そして、その瞬間へ

table of content

Thanks sikure for the information.
This book is a sequel to the book published in 2011. http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E6%B5%85%E7%94%B0%E7%9C%9F%E5%A4%AE-%E3%81%95%E3%82%89%E3%81%AA%E3%82%8B%E9%AB%98%E3%81%BF%E3%81%B8-%E5%90%89%E7%94%B0%E9%A0%86/dp/4052032926

The publisher is different for the book which was canceled.

pearlyriver wrote:

Mao2012 wrote:

I think that Mao's lutz is still a flutz... (not a bad one like Kanako's, but still slightly a flutz, just like Akiko's)

Yeah, I think if it's a deep edge, we can make a convincing argument for Mao, but since it's not very obvious, she's always given an edge call due to her being known for flutz.

To be honest, the edge calls that Mao receive for her flutz are most of the times correct, in my opinion: her lutz has improved a lot during the last years, and it's clearly a lot better than the one she was doing with Tarasova (2009 for example), but she still slightly switches edge to a RBI a moment before jumping... But some of her lutzes during this past couple of seasons have been pretty good and close to a clean one: for example, at the 2012 4CC she didn't receive the edge call, and the -0.70 was just because of the hand down... Let's hope!

The times that I wish I spoke Japanese!
If any forum members manage to get the book, a rough translation would be greatly appreciated!

shikure wrote:

http://hon.gakken.jp/book/1020372800 new book of Mao and combined part of the book which was cancelled in 2012(?)
浅田真央　そして、その瞬間へ

The book is just published.
 And now amazon.co.jp carries the book!
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4052037286/ref=s9_simh_co_p14_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_s=left-1&pf_rd_r=064P3FM1YNNA719A29PD&pf_rd_t=3201&pf_rd_p=464711576&pf_rd_i=typ01

(just ordered a copy with the CD of Mao's 13-14 program music!  )

Also, according to Twitter, the publisher got a lot of online pre-order of this book, as result, they decided to add more printings!

Oh, how much i wish they would bring this out in english!  

COHK wrote:

(just ordered a copy with the CD of Mao's 13-14 program music!  )

Also, according to Twitter, the publisher got a lot of online pre-order of this book, as result, they decided to add more printings!

Have they ever published an album compilation of her skating music throughout her career?  

COHK wrote:

shikure wrote:

http://hon.gakken.jp/book/1020372800 new book of Mao and combined part of the book which was cancelled in 2012(?)
浅田真央　そして、その瞬間へ

The book is just published.
 And now amazon.co.jp carries the book!
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4052037286/ref=s9_simh_co_p14_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_s=left-1&pf_rd_r=064P3FM1YNNA719A29PD&pf_rd_t=3201&pf_rd_p=464711576&pf_rd_i=typ01

(just ordered a copy with the CD of Mao's 13-14 program music!  )

Also, according to Twitter, the publisher got a lot of online pre-order of this book, as result, they decided to add more printings!

COHK, is the book available in Kinokuniya Japan? I'm not too familiar with ordering in Amazon JP. Thanks.

roma wrote:

COHK, is the book available in Kinokuniya Japan? I'm not too familiar with ordering in Amazon JP. Thanks.

It looks so, roma:
http://www.kinokuniya.co.jp/f/dsg-01-9784052037283

But Amazon JP is not too difficult to use, and they ship internationally (with the shipping fee, of course!) I'm less familiar with Kinokyniya website.

PS: The CD I was referring to is --

http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E6%B5%85%E7%94%B0%E7%9C%9F%E5%A4%AE%E3%82%B9%E3%82%B1%E3%83%BC%E3%83%86%E3%82%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0%E3%83%BB%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF2013-14-DVD%E4%BB%98-%E3%82%AA%E3%83%A0%E3%83%8B%E3%83%90%E3%82%B9-%E3%82%AF%E3%83%A9%E3%82%B7%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF/dp/B00EA1JBCI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1379714037&sr=8-1&keywords=%E6%B5%85%E7%94%B0%E7%9C%9F%E5%A4%AE%E3%82%B9%E3%82%B1%E3%83%BC%E3%83%86%E3%82%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0%E3%83%BB%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF2013-14

Sorry, I don't remember if the news about the 13-14 program music has been shared or not.

pearlyriver wrote:

COHK wrote:

(just ordered a copy with the CD of Mao's 13-14 program music!  )

Also, according to Twitter, the publisher got a lot of online pre-order of this book, as result, they decided to add more printings!

Have they ever published an album compilation of her skating music throughout her career?  

As far as I know, so far it's season by season, with the oldest starting from 2007. (The earlier ones also include Mai's skating music) I won't be surprised if EMI starts
with the project of an album compilation of all her programs, sometimes in the future.